MethaneHydrates

The Ice That Burns: Are Methane Hydrates the Next Big Resource?

Petroleum engineers in the 1930s knew what to think about methane hydrates, the magical “ice that burns”: they were a big nuisance. Chunks of these flammable frozen solids would sometimes clog oil and natural gas pipelines and slow production, so eliminating them became a priority. For decades, methane hydrates remained a worthless, vexing curiosity to industry.

But yesterday’s trash becomes today’s treasure, and methane hydrates now seem to represent a hugely abundant energy source that could help power the global economy as it shifts away from dirtier coal and oil. They could make some countries energy independent, and might even be able to help counter global warming by locking away some of the carbon dioxide (CO2) warming the climate. That is, the hydrates could become all of those things if engineers and scientists can develop a cost-competitive way to use them.

Methane hydrates consist of molecules of the hydrocarbon caged inside the crystalline lattice of water ice. They form spontaneously wherever natural gas mixes with water under the right combination of low temperatures and high pressures. In the 1960s, large fields of methane hydrates were found under the permafrost in oil-rich regions of Siberia and Canada, and mounds of the hydrates later turned up on parts of the seafloor near methane seeps. Then, over the past 20 years, geologists discovered even more extensive methane hydrate deposits in formations of sand and shale under the seafloor.

Suddenly, energy policymakers and corporations could ignore methane hydrates no longer: they represented some of the largest known reservoirs of natural gas in the world.

One million, trillion cubic feet of gas

Estimates of how much methane is tied up in hydrates globally vary widely but are on the order of 1,000,000 trillion cubic feet. Most of that is flatly unattainable, explains Ray Boswell, the methane hydrates technology manager for the U.S. Department of Energy’s National Energy Technology Laboratory. Nevertheless, in 2010, he and Timothy S. Collett, a research geologist for the U.S. Geological Survey, estimated that even if gas producers restricted themselves to the most workable, sandy formations, the amount of recoverable methane in hydrates could be around 10,000 trillion cubic feet. That quantity compares favorably to the roughly 16,200 trillion cubic feet that the M.I.T. Energy Initiative’s 2010 “Future of Natural Gas” report lists as recoverable from all of the world’s remaining conventional sources.

For the U.S. and other countries that have extensive shale formations or other domestic options for natural gas, the lure of methane hydrates may not be immediately compelling. But Japan, which imports about 95 percent of its resources and pays eight times as much for industrial energy as the U.S. does, has much stronger incentives. It is avidly seeking to exploit the abundant methane hydrates in its waters as a windfall to its economy and industrial security.

The challenge is how to tap into that wealth of methane economically and safely. At first, scientists and engineers thought that collecting and transporting the methane hydrates might demand complex dredging or mining systems for extracting gas hydrates from the deep sediments, Boswell says. Meanwhile, environmentalists feared that disturbing brittle hydrate formations might cause sudden huge releases of methane gas and intensify the greenhouse effect on the climate.

Further work has convinced researchers, however, that the risks of catastrophe were overblown and that no extraordinary production methods are needed. Rather, methane can be harvested from hydrates by drilling and pumping techniques not unlike those long used to work tired gas fields.

Offshore production tests in 2012

So far, techniques for extracting methane from hydrates have been tested only in the laboratory and in brief field tests: a Japanese research consortium produced about 460,000 cubic feet of gas onshore over six days in 2008. The true tests will begin next year, when Japan will attempt the first offshore production tests from hydrates in the eastern Nankai Trough.

More burning ice. Courtesy/Natural Research Council Canada

The technique with the most evident commercial promise may be depressurization: A well bored down into a hydrate would pump water and gas out of the formation; the low pressure area it created would prompt the adjacent hydrates to decompose into liquid water and methane gas, perpetuating the flow. According to Collett, small amounts of chemicals might be used within the borehole to prevent the hydrates from refreezing on their way to the surface but very little of these substances would reach the environment, which would minimize the risks of contamination.

Moreover, Collett says, because the sandy hydrates targeted for production might be sealed 3,000 feet or more beneath the seafloor and the hydrates would naturally tend to reform under the ambient conditions, runaway releases of methane should be impossible (though he also emphasizes that ongoing monitoring should always be part of developers’ plans). Rather, a more realistic concern is destabilization of the local seabed, because the hydrates are part of what holds the sandy geology together. Even small shifts in the seabed could damage the boreholes—posing an expensive problem for the drillers, and at least transiently allowing leakages of methane or other chemicals.

Keeping the hydrate formations stable is just one of the advantages of an ambitious alternative to depressurization that scientists are considering. This technique, pioneered by South Korean, Japanese and Norwegian researchers, would not only produce methane but would sequester unwanted industrial CO2 away from the atmosphere—a double win in the current fight against climate change. Warm, pressurized CO2 (in a so-called supercritical state that allows it to have a liquid’s density and a gas’s expansiveness simultaneously) would be injected into methane hydrates. Molecules of the CO2 would then insert themselves into the icy lattice, forming an even more stable form of hydrate and liberating the trapped methane, which could then be pumped to the surface. Because the hydrate material would never melt, the local geology ought to remain intact.

Ten to 15 years away from production

Klaus Wallman heads up a CO2-based extraction project called SUGAR funded by the German ministries and coordinated by the Leibniz Institute for Marine Sciences (IFM-GEOMAR). Although he is enthusiastic about the possibilities, he acknowledges a drawback: the reaction that swaps CO2 for methane in the hydrates is even slower than depressurization, which means that gas production would also be slow. “The question is whether it will ever become economic,” Wallman says. The SUGAR researchers are exploring whether the use of certain chemicals injected with the CO2 might hasten the methane release, but doing so would further add to the costs and the potential environmental risks.

According to Boswell, the U.S. DOE and ConocoPhilips will test CO2 injection at a site in Alaska’s North Slope next year as well, and an agreement has been reached in principle for tests with BP and other companies for a test of depressurization as well, although the timing is still not settled. (Scheduling tests can be difficult because they would take place around active oil fields, where disruptions are expensive.) Germany’s IFM-GEOMAR SUGAR project aims to test its CO2 technology in the field by 2015. India, South Korea, Norway and other countries also remain intensely interested in developing the technology.

Analysts commonly conclude that methane hydrates are 10 to 15 years away from contributing significantly to commercial natural gas supplies, although Japan has also announced that it intends to begin some pilot production as early as 2018. But that timeline for development may ultimately depend less on favorable technology and geology than on favorable economics and politics. Any policies that might strengthen future demand for natural gas—such as restrictions on nuclear power or curbs on greenhouse emissions—might motivate the industry to exploit methane hydrates sooner rather than later.

John Rennie served as editor in chief of Scientific American between 1994 and 2009. Based in New York, he continues to work as a science writer and editor, and as an adjunct instructor in New York University’s Science, Health and Environmental Reporting Program. John blogs at The Gleaming Retort can be found on Twitter as @tvjrennie. This is his first piece for Txchnologist.

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Comments

  1. Sheryl

    Wasn’t it the methane hydrates that caused a lot of problems with the BP oil spill?

  2. Richard

    Yes it was methane hydrates that caused a lot of problems with the BP oil spill.

    It leaked into the drill casing and began to melt and rise and decompress rapidly, thus ‘blowing out’ the rig. I think a little goes a long way when this stuff is compressed at 5,000 feet. I think the drilling industry will get a handle on drilling at those depths, once they understand the risks better.

    • The Dude

      They are already drilling at 3 times that depth!

  3. Kevin1

    Of all of the potential energy sources looking for ways to be developed methan hydrates strike me as being the most promising sine it could be readily adated to present energy generation technology with the least effort. Plants currently burning coal could be adapted to burning much cleaner gas at minimal cost to the industry, and the CO2 produced from burning the methane could be recycled to release more methane.for future use. A lot more practical than the pipe dreams of the green energy fools, and it could come into use decades sooner.

    • fireofenergy

      Watch your language, dude… chances are, there will also be some foolish mishaps in obtaining large amounts of MH, just as with conventional oil drilling.
      Machine made batteries and solar arrays are NOT foolish as they will exponentiate since machines work for free.

    • J

      Hold on now with the foolish talk…. MH, Oil, Coal ect. are all finite resources. We are almost out of oil, now we are going on to the next big thing to strip mine? Solar, Wind, Currents are all renewable resources and are not foolish at all. We need to stop looking to resources that will NOT be there in our future. I believe we can use these new forms of energy to get the oil needle out of the Wold’s arm, but our grandchildren’s future is depends on our actions TODAY. We NEED to focus on renewable forms of energy not fixed amounts of MH deposits in the ground.

      • Nick

        Jimmy? Jimmy Carter is that you?

        The earth is filled with oil so take that worn out lie and burn it.

      • Phil

        We’re not anywhere close to running out of oil. Yes, it is a finite resource, and it is harder to get than another finite resource like silica, but we have beau coup supplies identified. It will be more expensive to get out of the ground, and it’s possible we’ll have gasoline prices close the cost of bottled water as the price rises, but, it is a manageable situation so long as we are allowed to go after the oil.
        The biggest problem with oil production isn’t finding the oil, but it’s getting a permit to develop a well and ship the product.
        All that said, the world needs cheap, abundant energy to keep from starving or freezing to death. That means an all of the above strategy is the only one that makes sense. Fortunately, the USA has ample natural gas which is an excellent transportation fuel. That will really help our situation,
        If oil continues to rise in price we have beau coup coal we can convert to liquid fuels for use in transportation and export to China as they become addicted to our energy continuing to help them feed their population.

  4. Mike

    The 7th plague against the Egyptians in Exodus was described as hail with fire inside. Most interesting.

  5. Abby

    If there was a methane drilling disaster, wouldn’t it be absolutely catastrophic for the entire human race? How can one be prevented exactly?

    • Phil

      Much more likely scenario is the world starves itself of energy as the greenies handicap the world’s ability to produce economical food. As the world starvation hits the developed world it decays society to the likes of the dark ages.

  6. Doug McClean

    Of course, having a place to store it is only one of the tricky parts about carbon sequestration. How to concentrate in an energy efficient way is at least as challenging, if not more so.

    • Phil

      The ocean sequesters ample amounts of CO2 naturally. And as the partial pressure of CO2 increases in the atmosphere, the ocean sequesters even more. Win-win.

      • Doug McClean

        That’s win-lose-lose. If you wait for it to passively diffuse into the oceans, you have to drive up the partial pressure of CO2 in the atmosphere to force it into the oceans. Thus, you still have the same CO2 problem we have today which is to say, this happens now, and while it slows the rate of growth of atmospheric CO2 concentrations, it doesn’t slow it enough to prevent an enormous disaster on the timescale of the next century. It also, of course, drives down oceanic pH with adverse consequences for the many economically and ecologically important species who rely on precipitating CaCO3.

  7. Vicky var

    Its great future fuel ;) but metane is 20 times more powerful than C02 as green house gas!!!;(

    • ChrisInKnox

      Vicky – CH4 is definitely a more potent greenhouse gas, but unlike other fossil fuels (coal, petroleum) when you burn it for energy production, you dont release as much CO2, as much of the product is simple H20 (water)

    • Dean Geary

      Isn’t that why the greens want us all to be vegitarians? Cattle flatulation releases too much methane into the atmosphere? We are all going to burn up! OMG! We selfish humans are going to stop the next ice age! OMG!

    • johnd2

      Methane is a powerfull greenhouse gas while it is in the atmosphere. But is oxidizes slowly and
      spontaneously into C02 and H2O. These two are also greenhouse gasses. But it is mostly
      H2O a natural thing that is so abundant that a little more from decomposing methane is
      negligible.

  8. Cynthia Tidwell

    I heard that Australia is already gearing up for mining frozen methane…and preparing storage facilities off-shore in order to load ships carrying the fuel around the world. I think they’re acquiring it in old coal mines. How does this fit in with your report?

  9. Vicky

    US deals methane hydrates project with 3 countries: India, Japan n Koria!!!!

  10. fireofenergy

    Machine made batteries and solar arrays would create more (installation) jobs and is rather unlimited.

    • Phil

      Ha, ha, ha, ha…. Oh, man, you crack me up.
      Do yourself a favor and get a good calculator and do some simple number crunching to see if you really want to spend future generations’ birthright, so you can cover the states of Arizona, Nevada, and Utah with high maintenance solar facilities to supply the power required of Phoenix, Tucson, and Salt Lake City.
      If you want to talk about harnessing the power of the tides or waves you might have a fighting chance, but anything to do with “collection” devices for solar are a fools parade.

  11. twelvedegrees

    It’s still fossil fuel, i.e. it’ll release geo-historic carbon into Earth’s carbon-cycle which without proper balancing in CO2 absorption will aggravate the greenhouse gas overload even further.

    • Delta Bravo

      NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth’s atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.
      Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA’s Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.
      “The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show,” Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. “There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans.”
      In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations computer models predicted.
      The new findings are extremely important and should dramatically alter the global warming debate.
      Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human emissions of carbon dioxide (the answer is “not much”). However, the single most important issue in the global warming debate is whether carbon dioxide emissions will indirectly trap far more heat by causing large increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds. Alarmist computer models assume human carbon dioxide emissions indirectly cause substantial increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds (each of which are very effective at trapping heat), but real-world data have long shown that carbon dioxide emissions are not causing as much atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds as the alarmist computer models have predicted.
      The new NASA Terra satellite data are consistent with long-term NOAA and NASA data indicating atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds are not increasing in the manner predicted by alarmist computer models. The Terra satellite data also support data collected by NASA’s ERBS satellite showing far more long wave radiation (and thus, heat) escaped into space between 1985 and 1999 than alarmist computer models had predicted. Together, the NASA ERBS and Terra satellite data show that for 25 years and counting, carbon dioxide emissions have directly and indirectly trapped far less heat than alarmist computer models have predicted.
      In short, the central premise of alarmist global warming theory is that carbon dioxide emissions should be directly and indirectly trapping a certain amount of heat in the earth’s atmosphere and preventing it from escaping into space. Real-world measurements, however, show far less heat is being trapped in the earth’s atmosphere than the alarmist computer models predict, and far more heat is escaping into space than the alarmist computer models predict.
      When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a “huge discrepancy” between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.
      James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at The Heartland Institute and managing editor of Environment & Climate News.

      • Mike Brosch

        The term “computer modeling” has to do with the calculus used by scientist to predict what a unit of air will do in response to forces acting upon it. Most of what we know about predicting weather was worked out over the last 100 years. Improvements are the result of the ability of computers to do calculations of modeling data. The problem is that the data is only as good as the number of data points. Years ago a close friend, who ran the meteorology department at UCLA, suggested to me that there would need to be hourly observations and sampling from over 2 million collection points to get any useful granularity with regard to the effects of natural vs man made climate change. Now that satellites are able to gather the needed data, far beyond what was possible a few years ago,we are getting really useful information, and it is not supporting what many experts had expected. Human nature being what it is it’s no surprise that not everyone is overjoyed to find out that they have been wrong, but the science is simply not present to validate the scenario of man caused global climate change.

      • Alan

        It’s amazing how little coverage this strong study by this reputable organization is getting. The major finding is that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas which completely obliterates any arguments for anthropogenic global warming. If you’re not familiar with this study and if you support global warming theories or actions in any way, please look it up and read it over.

      • DRT

        “James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at The Heartland Institute” ….. the Heartland Institute is a doubt monger institution. Read “Merchants of Doubt”. So his job is to spread disinformation at the behest of the Koch brother overlords.

        • The Truth

          So, do we use my taxes for problem prevention or mitigation? That’s a rhetorical question, by the way.

          Unfortunately, if history is a guide, I believe the 1% closed-minded wackjobs will stay irrational longer than the climate will remain solvent. That’s yet another reason why it’s best to assume we won’t deal with the climate change until it’s too expensive to fix. The good news is there’s still years for us remaining 99% to adapt–e.g., assume 100-year floods are every 10 or 25 years now, so don’t even think about buying a house anywhere near a flood plain. And think twice before moving to or staying in the desert southwest–increasingly severe water shortages are forecast. Florida’s gonna have a tough time, too.

          Anyway, the cost and availability of homeowner’s insurance is going to be a very good “tell” on the reality of climate change. Good luck self-insuring if you’re dream home’s at sea level or near the obsolete definition of flood plain.

  12. Stu_in_VA

    I don’t think the BP oil spill was caused by methane hydrates – I saw a presentation on the well casings that BP used, and it showed a natural gas layer (that other wells were pulling gas from) above the oil layer. A transition to a smaller diameter casing occurred near/right above this gas layer, and the concrete outside the casing and/or the casing transition seal may have failed, putting natural gas in the well when it was not expected. It became a basic well blowout with a well head fire.

    I think the presentation was by Shell Oil, so there was a fair amount of “how we do things differently” in the presentation.

  13. Jeff DeWitt

    Sounds REALLY promising, and a lot more positive than in the Clive Cussler book “Fire Ice”!

    I’m becoming more and more convinced that natural gas is going to be the transportation fuel of the future, I’d convert my Studebaker truck to run on the stuff if there was a convenient place to fill up.

    Solar is fine but only too a point. There is only so much energy available per square foot of sunshine and we can’t cover everything with solar cells. And once the cells and batteries are made they don’t pollute there can be a lot of pollution involved in their production and later disposal.

  14. John Self

    I thnk the shifting of the earths axis play a big role in the heating of the earth. 75 million years ago the nortth pole wasn’t frozen like it is today and the Dino’s expelled alot more flagelent than the tiny cow of today. could the sun be getting hotter as it gets older? (oh it does). could the earth be spining and changing it’s axis like it has over the last 4.6 billion years and also see an increase in its plate shifting, how many earth quakes have we had on the past 5 years, I haven’t counted but I know in the past 3 we have had much more and much stonger than the 40 yrs I’vd lived on this planet. It seems as if we are repeating an ongoing cycle

  15. Varnaka

    It is time to accept that global warming is not a science. It is not to say it does not happen, but to emphasize that people don’t know exactly what percentage is man made and what is natural.
    That does not mean that we should not reduce our emission, to the contrary. It just means that scientist have to go back to do science and not try to please their sponsors. Try to prove global warming is fine, but if you don’t have any conclusive answers as what the causes are, then say so, don’t just take what fits your agenda, same goes for the other side, to deny its existence is simply insane. The problem when people needs to lie or fudge results to prove their points is that even when they say the truth no one takes them seriously anymore, whether for or against global warming for instance.

    • Alan

      Huh? If CO2 is not causing global warming or any other harm and even with increased emissions causes no discernible harm, then it does mean that we should not reduce our emissions. Affordable energy drives our and the worlds economy. It supports food and all other production that improves lives around the world. Encouraging decreased emissions though the emissions cause no harm means you’d rather fight a straw man than feed real people. Personally, I’d much rather our time and resources be spent on solutions to actual problems that would improve and extend the lives of people around the world.

      • Jerry

        Alan, how do like the air you breath – polluted or non-polluted?

        • bbix

          I don’t know about Alan, but a few extra ppm of CO2 in my breathing air does not especially scare me. CO maybe but not CO2. The air we breath in is <400 ppm CO2, we exhale at 40,000 ppm, as long as what we breath in is less than 20,000 ppm we'll adapt and be fine (you may initially feel short term effects at lower levels but it has no adverse health impact up to much higher levels). If you hyperventilate and drive your blood level of CO2 low enough, you can hold your breath until you pass and die since it is the accumulation of CO2 that causes you to breath, not the lack of oxygen. After hyperventilating, you can consume all your oxygen and pass out / die before you feel any symptoms. This is why on planes you are told to put on your own oxygen mask first because you won't know you're oxygen deprived. CO2 is not so bad for you.

  16. mercenary76

    People have been talking doom and gloom since there were people able to talk . The global warming issue seems to be just more hot air and a way for governments to exert more control over their citizens . The possibility of mining methane from the seabed is intriguing and should be pursued , not to say that solar and other energy production should get more or less interest .

  17. Marcellus Kelley

    I think this cube will make the car run for an entire year without going to the gas station?

  18. Dave Young

    Better check with Al Gore after he has his “massage”……..he doesn`t want any more CO2 or capitalism
    unless he controlls the carbon credit exchange.

  19. M.L. Carle

    Doesn’t the right-wing Heritage Foundation’s flawed encapsulation of the NASA report, being funded by the Koch’s give you pause? The actual report states that it cannot verify it’s findings because of technological problems in gathering data. Please read the whole report.
    From all over the world we are seeing dramatic changes in weather. Only time will tell whether this is an anomaly. But how can anyone think we can just keep growing in population, resource use and waste without eventually facing huge problems? Smaller animals provide us with a model of the limits of population growth.

    • JeffC

      actually we are not seeing dramatic changes in weather all over the world … in fact do you realize that we just set a new records for months in a row without a major hurricane hitting land in the US ? I didn’t think so …

      smaller animals don’t have our brains which is why they have remained “smaller animals” … I think we can continue to grow becasue we find solutions to the problems that would limit our growth … in fact many of the advances of the modern world are exactly that, solutions to problems that would have limited our growth … advances in food, energy and medicine all come to mind …

  20. Roger

    Does it seem odd that with all the highly educated talk on this topic, there are amazing flaws in the use of to and too and typos like becasue , thnk, koria, and metane? That could be due to no spell check available on the comment field. It is still interesting to try to keep up with all the comments. I do hope somebody can make use of a new energy source, just for an alternative. I believe we need to have all the possibilities explored.

  21. Bob Slicker

    While in grade-school 55 years ago, I remember learning that Florida would be 50 feet underwater within 50 years due to SMOG. The oceans are lapping at our doorsteps and have been since the oceans were formed. The same people are now proclaiming hurricanes will continue to grow in intensity with global warming. Having lived in Florida my entire life, I feel that throughout my lifetime the hurricanes have gone in cycles that cannot be predicted, yet they say they are accurate with their predictions. In 2004, Florida had three powerful storms hit the state. In the waters off our coast have been found sunken treasures, the result of ships going down in hurricanes. How do we know these storms weren’t Andrews, Katrinas and Charleys? We only have a very limited knowledge of what causes a hurricane and less knowledge on predicting intensity. We now claim the winds from Africa also bring with it sand, which is now the reason for fewer strong hurricanes since 2004. I feel we have not had a long enough time to make any claims or forecasts on the frequency or intensity of hurricanes and it’s relationship to global warming. The 2004 hurricane season only served as a catalyst to allow insurance companies to increase their rates and eliminate the greater-at-risk policies.

    • Doug McClean

      [Citation needed]

  22. matt

    Cheap energy = better lives for everyone. Only elitists, like “environmentalists” with their rare earth metal ipads oppose cheap food, cheap energy, and cheap transportation.

    Think about that the next time your multi-millionaire liberal politician tells you that you have to buy a $40,000 Prius or eat free-range, locally-produced chicken fed from organic sprouted multi-grains. Centralized, large-scale food production, cheap nuclear energy, effective fertilizers and pest control have allowed us to be the most weatlhy, longest-living generation in human history, world-wide. The “99-percent” should be demanding cheap food, cheap water, cheap power, and not low-efficiency, stupidly expensive solar and wind power. Fact – a single volcanic eruption puts more sulfer and carbon dioxide in the air than every automobile in the world that has ever existed. Shall we outlaw volcanoes? Fine Iceland for it’s eruptions?

    Unfortunately, the people are sheep. They aspire to $8 gasoline, $10 milk, and million-dollar 1500 sq. ft green condos.

  23. X. S. Charm

    Better get ‘em quick. If they get loose we’re all dead.

  24. bobby

    i think this could be interesting but if it is harmful to the environment i’m not so sure….. the last thing we need is MORE global warming

  25. Time traveller

    I think the following sums it up well:
    http://www.google.com/search?q=time+magazine+global+cooling&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=iSJeT8CwD4SDsALOzunLAw&sqi=2&ved=0CEQQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=852

    Global warming. No wait, global cooling. No wait, global warming. Oh, I don’t know, let’s just call it “climate change” since “science” really doesn’t know what its talking about.

    Let’s face it, this topic is driven by political ideology, not science. In any event, people think their going to “control” CO2 emissions by paying trillions of dollars given natural occurrences and China’s continued consumption? Let’s get real folks and solve some REAL problems in this word.

  26. writemikemc

    I think the reason we went to Saturn’s moon Titan is because it is literally covered in slushy lakes of methane hydrates continually raining from the atmoshphere.

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